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Can you completely despise ebonics (rapper-speak) without being at least a little bit racist? Is it really part of black culture?

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October 14, 2009 01:34 AM
Assuming that only blacks speak Ebonics is racist in itself. I wouldn't agree, ebonics is more the horrible language of choice of the younger generation. I completely despise ebonics no matter whose mouth it comes from and acknowledge it can come from any mouth, so yes, you can without being racist.

I wouldn't say it's a part of black culture, simply because it makes me shudder inside to think of ebonics a part of any culture.
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October 14, 2009 01:35 AM
I don't think it's racist at all. Every culture has it's own "language" so to speak. I've been living in the most rural area a person can live in for 3 years and I find myself annoyed with what I call Hillbilly speak. I don't think that means I'm racist and don't like white people.

The United States is kind of built on people from everywhere with no real roots and thus things like Ebonics are formed and cultures are created. I've lived in the most urban and the most country places and it can all be a little annoying at times. For me, it boils down to intelligence. I can't stand Ebonics and Hillbilly because they both sound so uneducated.
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October 14, 2009 01:40 AM
It's unfortunate if it is associated with a particular race or culture.

ebonics has no value and seems to create a larger divide between the poor and those who are more fortunate thereby cementing the fact those who use ebonics are "poor" or at one time lived a "poor" lifestyle.

I don't despise the idea of ebonics although I question why anyone would want to associate themselves with something that separates them from society with appearance of being uneducated.

What I see is a group who identifies with being singled out and making themselves "special" through a backward type of idealism rather than seeking to make a mark on the world with contribution and progress.
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October 14, 2009 02:21 AM
I have a bit of a problem with how this question is phrased; Despised, Racist? I believe White, Black or "Other," you can appreciate the advantages of speaking standard American English. I don't despise kids that write English papers in "text" language I simply hope that they can compartmentalize this to the appropriate media and learn how to write well enough to not only get a job to sustain themselves and their future family, but communicate with the other members of society.

You should reflect a bit on whether or not you are somehow looking for a reason to dislike a segment of the population, because it seems like you might be.
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October 14, 2009 03:04 AM
Hi pk. Thanks for your answer! I tried to phrase the question in the most debate-inspiring way possible, so that explains the wording.
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October 18, 2009 01:54 PM
Thanks for the additional info.
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October 14, 2009 02:35 AM
Okay, Wikipedia is not my first choice for definitions but I think that this bit of information about ebonics is vital to your question: "Ebonics is a term that was originally intended and sometimes used for the language of all people of African ancestry, or for that of Black North American people; since 1996 it has been largely used to refer to African American Vernacular English (distinctively nonstandard Black United States English), asserting the independence of this from (standard) English. The term became widely known in the U.S. in 1996 due to a controversy over its use by the Oakland School Board."

Calling it rapper-speak is a bit, umm, prejudicial in its assessment. Ebonics bothers me the same way text-speech and many other dialects bother me. Do I despise it? Well, no, but I prefer that people use more formal language, at least when communicating via writing. In person, we all speak with some nods to the locale in which we are raised or where we have lived for a long period of time.

I am not racist for hating it when people here in southern Illinois tell me abo0ut the things "youins" are doing and I'm not racist for disliking ebonics. In your home, with your friends, etc. speak however you prefer, but in the business world and in education, we speak American English and that should be the rule for everyone regardless of skin color, national origin or down-home region of the country.
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October 14, 2009 04:32 AM
No it's not racist if you do, it's just the majority of the people who speak it are blacks, whites do to though, I personaly don't like it, I think it just makes a person sound retarded lol
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October 14, 2009 09:40 AM
There is obviously something wrong with the fact that one can "despise" the way a person talks. You clearly have a problem with the culture it is affiliated with. If you expect everyone to talk the same, you will be sadly disappointed. It may not be racist if you have no problem with other black cultured languages, such as patois or creole, but it is definitely prejudice.
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