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In monetary or by some other material term, do we all really have a price?

I've often wondered if I would ever find myself in a situation where I would accept an offering of money even though it would compromise my integrity, or if, as I hope, hold out.
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Marked as Best! October 19, 2009 05:58 PM
Actually, the question involves two situations: One where it's just yourself, and the other when it involves other people.

If it's just you, then in order to answer that question you have to take it to the ultimate price.

Would you die for your principal?

If someone's offering you nonessential luxuries... stuff you can live without... then it's easy to stick to a principal, and anyone who can be bribed away from their principals with jewels and luxuries obviously don't have any.

But when those material bribes involve stuff you need to survive, that's when your principals are really put to the test.

If you know you would die for a principal - that no amount of material bribery like food is going to change your mind even though you're starving - then okay, you can't be bribed, and it can be known that you will stick to your principal, and that's impressive, because not many people can, although it's heavily factored by whether or not that death also comes with a lot of pain...

Pain uber-complicates the evaluation, not just because extreme pain can be measured to mess up a person's head to the extent where they don't really know what they're doing, but also because with extreme pain comes a point where you just want to die... which is why you have to distinguish torture from lethal bribery when evaluating a person's dedication to his principals... with lethal bribery you still know what you're doing, but with torture you won't.

If you don't think you'd die for a principal, then you've got a price, somewhere in the range of jewels and luxuries for no principals on one side to death for absolute principals on the other.

But none of that really amounts to a conundrum. Where it becomes a real conundrum is when maintenance of a principal involves someone else's life.

Most everyone will say without flinching that they would dump a principal if sticking to it will cause someone else to die, but actually, when you support a politician sending soldiers to die over principals, you are doing exactly that, and those soldiers are not even dieing for a person-level principals... they're dieing for the principals of a meta-entity called the state.

So, if it's just you, and you can be bribed with non-essential luxuries, then you have no principals. If you cannot be bribed even at the cost of your life for a principal, then you will stick to it, and everything else in-between amounts to knowing your price...

BUT... ask yourself what principal you would stick to at the cost of someone *else* life, and take note of whether you're as principled about it as you thought.
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October 19, 2009 04:53 AM
No. I don't think so.

I think while depending on what was being asked of someone many people would take money to do something they thought was wrong in some way, but I don't think everyone would. I for example, would never, for any amount of money sleep with someone.
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October 19, 2009 12:01 PM
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Not at all. You can be assured that there are a lot of folks who are perfectly happy with their lives and the amount of possessions that they already have, and really don't care to change their situation all that much, especially if it means compromising something they believe in or giving up something they hold dear. If you think you are more inclined to be the sort of person who is content with the things you already have, then don't be afraid to begin characterizing yourself that way. It will begin to sound normal to you, and it will have the ring of truth to it.

Thankfulness for what I already have is the key. It was hilarious to see, on several occasions, the jaws of network marketing fanatics literally drop when I told them I'm perfectly happy with my income and my house and my car, and I have no desire to build a 3 million dollar retirement fund, or travel to Hawaii. "You see", I tell them, "I never thought I would have a house or a car or a job as good as what I have now. In addition, I have a family that I love to spend time with and I have my health, and a sound mind. Not only do I have all of these things, but in no way did I ever do anything to deserve them. How could I possibly want anything more.?" They insist on hauling out their glossy pictures and graphs, showing me how many thousands of dollars I could earn and what a fine house and car I could own, or what exotic vacations I could go on, or even how much more money I could give to charity. My response? I don't want any of those things, and I particularly don't want to spend my evenings and weekends away from my family, surrounded by people whose greed for money and things is so palpable you can almost smell it.

There is nothing on this earth more precious than being able to sit contentedly with your family, knowing that right now, at this moment, we have everything we need and more than we ever deserved. I'd have to be crazy to give that up for all the riches on earth.

If you have a warm place to sleep tonight, a roof over your head, food in your belly, clothes on your back, reasonable health, your family by your side or within a distance where you can reach out to them, what more could you possibly want that would make you leave that paradise in search of some illusive dream of riches.

I wouldn't trade everything in the world for what I have, and this video says it perfectly: "It's the sweetest thing I know of, just spending time with you"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbXm75FO1IM
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October 19, 2009 09:36 PM
I don't have a monetary price, but I do have the price of the safety of my children. I would do anything to ensure the safety of my children.

To me, to let your children suffer for the sake of money is an unforgiveable sin. We bring them into this world without their asking. We should pay any price to protect them.
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