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Is "I was drunk" a suitable excuse for bad behavior?
We've all heard it or maybe even said it. You confront someone with something they did that they are ashamed of and their only reply is "I was drunk." Does this this make it okay?
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December 21, 2009 06:07 PM
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Complicated answer to this one...I used to think not, as everytime I personally would get drunk, I would still be in my right mind, just less inhibited. Then I started working for an alcoholism treatment center and learned a lot. I learned that some people drink so often and their tolerance builds so high that they get to the point where it takes a phenomenal amount of alcohol to appease their desire for it and this leads to a little phenomenon called blackouts. During a blackout, the alcoholic has no earthly idea what they are doing. They are completely out of it and have no recollection the next day of the night's events, kind of like being on auto pilot..."the lights are on, but nobody's home," so to speak. So, at this point in my life I began feeling perhaps it is a suitable excuse to say "I was drunk," but there's a catch. If you are drinking so much you are having blackouts, you really should stop drinking. Alcoholism is a disease that needs to be owned by the person it afflicts. So, in actuality, "I was drunk" should never be an excuse for anything because, even if you are in a blackout and have no control over yourself, you still have the control to not take that first drink at all and avoid the situation altogether.
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December 20, 2009 10:42 PM
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Legally, intoxication is not accepted as an excuse so long as the individual became intoxicated on purpose. I agree with that premise. People have an obligation to keep ahold of their faculties at least to the extent that they can control their behavior and prevent harm to others. If they lose control (and yes, many of us have) and do something that causes another harm, then while the action itself may not have been voluntarily, they voluntarily entered that state, knowing what could happen.
I think because most of us have been drunker than we should have been, there is some natural inclination to be a little bit sympathetic. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I think the responsible thing with people, if forgiveness is going to happen, is that they commit to a plan to not enter that state again.
So, no, intoxication is not an excuse. It is part of the story, but it is not an excuse.
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I think because most of us have been drunker than we should have been, there is some natural inclination to be a little bit sympathetic. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I think the responsible thing with people, if forgiveness is going to happen, is that they commit to a plan to not enter that state again.
So, no, intoxication is not an excuse. It is part of the story, but it is not an excuse.
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December 21, 2009 03:04 AM
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No, I have never felt that "I was drunk" was an acceptable excuse for anything. As adults we should be able to drink and handle our alcohol.
Another reason I don't accept it is because I've had my share of falling over drunk episodes and can honestly tell you that I still knew what I was doing. Sure, we don't make the best decisions and we decide to do things we might not normally do but at the time we still know what we're doing. And though a bit hazy, we still know right from wrong....I don't know. I do anyway...
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Another reason I don't accept it is because I've had my share of falling over drunk episodes and can honestly tell you that I still knew what I was doing. Sure, we don't make the best decisions and we decide to do things we might not normally do but at the time we still know what we're doing. And though a bit hazy, we still know right from wrong....I don't know. I do anyway...
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December 21, 2009 10:51 PM
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No.
Unless somebody put some drug in their glass wihtout their knowledge, they are fully responsible for their actions even if they were drunk.
Why? because they DID get drunk voluntarily. They chose too, regardless of the consequences. And anyway, usually if you have good intentions when sober, it won't change when you are drunk... So if you act like an butt hole when drunk, it's probably because you are one full time ;)
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Unless somebody put some drug in their glass wihtout their knowledge, they are fully responsible for their actions even if they were drunk.
Why? because they DID get drunk voluntarily. They chose too, regardless of the consequences. And anyway, usually if you have good intentions when sober, it won't change when you are drunk... So if you act like an butt hole when drunk, it's probably because you are one full time ;)
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December 22, 2009 12:27 AM
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I read more then one story about someone who got drunk for the first time on his or her 21st birthday and died and or killed someone driving home. Less talked about are the people who get drunk and pass out in a pool, or those who get drunk and fall down a flight of stairs and get seriously injured or die.
Getting drunk impares judgement, the first drunken stupor someone reaches could be the last.
Drinking to the point of getting drunk IS a mistake, and it is the weakest excuse for poor behavior.
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Getting drunk impares judgement, the first drunken stupor someone reaches could be the last.
Drinking to the point of getting drunk IS a mistake, and it is the weakest excuse for poor behavior.
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December 22, 2009 01:15 AM
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It could be argued that bad behavior while sober should actually be more tolerated than bad behavior while drunk. When you decide to drink, the onus is on you to make sure you've planned ahead, are in a safe place, and that nothing can go wrong. "I was drunk" isn't an excuse at all. In fact, if you were drunk, it might be best to avoid mentioning it.
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December 22, 2009 12:42 PM
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In my opinion, it is suitable for first timers. But for those who are aware that they have the tendency to act stupid when drunk it's not good enough. If you can't control yourself when you're drunk then you shouldn't be drinking at all.
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December 29, 2009 08:45 PM
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In short: No.
It's a bit more complicated though, there might be a few exceptions. It can happen that a person get's over their personal alcohol threshold, and from then on some people continue drinking and don't realize anymore that they are getting VERY drunk....
So, I'd say, if this happens for the first time to a person, and it's an accident, it might be not an excuse but at least an explanation. If this sam person shows the same behaviour more than once, and had not learned a lesson, then we're back to the first answer: No, it's not!
Who drinks nees to realize that alcolhol might lower inhibitions, and needs to make sure the alcohol level does not surpass a limit where actions become irresponsible.
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It's a bit more complicated though, there might be a few exceptions. It can happen that a person get's over their personal alcohol threshold, and from then on some people continue drinking and don't realize anymore that they are getting VERY drunk....
So, I'd say, if this happens for the first time to a person, and it's an accident, it might be not an excuse but at least an explanation. If this sam person shows the same behaviour more than once, and had not learned a lesson, then we're back to the first answer: No, it's not!
Who drinks nees to realize that alcolhol might lower inhibitions, and needs to make sure the alcohol level does not surpass a limit where actions become irresponsible.
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