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Is it ever ok for a hard-news journalist to openly judge the subject of their story while presenting the story?
CNN reported that someone created an application poll through a third-party program that asked the question if President Obama should be killed. Of course, the application has been removed and the Secret Service is investigating. Serious stuff, right?
Here's what happened and why I'm asking the question:
During the presentation of this story, both the anchor and the reporter started calling the unknown creator of the poll an "idiot" and "stupid". I'm a trained journalist (a writer, but nonetheless a journalist all the same) and the one thing journalists are supposed to be is objective when presenting information about a story. We are paid to be creative and to weave stories that are easy to understand and are clever. But to throw out your own personal feelings while presenting such a serious story is very, very wrong in my book and breaks the governing rule of objectivity.
In my opinion, for CNN to allow this to continue is going to eventually discredit them and turn them into a joke of a news source. What are your thoughts on this? Should broadcast journalists be allowed to put in their two cents and personal opinion? Is the name-calling necessary to get the point across or do you see it as a distraction? (We all know the guy is an idiot, but it's not the journalists' job to say so!)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/09/29/nr.obama.facebook.poll.cnn?iref=videosearch
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Here's what happened and why I'm asking the question:
During the presentation of this story, both the anchor and the reporter started calling the unknown creator of the poll an "idiot" and "stupid". I'm a trained journalist (a writer, but nonetheless a journalist all the same) and the one thing journalists are supposed to be is objective when presenting information about a story. We are paid to be creative and to weave stories that are easy to understand and are clever. But to throw out your own personal feelings while presenting such a serious story is very, very wrong in my book and breaks the governing rule of objectivity.
In my opinion, for CNN to allow this to continue is going to eventually discredit them and turn them into a joke of a news source. What are your thoughts on this? Should broadcast journalists be allowed to put in their two cents and personal opinion? Is the name-calling necessary to get the point across or do you see it as a distraction? (We all know the guy is an idiot, but it's not the journalists' job to say so!)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/09/29/nr.obama.facebook.poll.cnn?iref=videosearch
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September 30, 2009 11:42 PM
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I think you have to really consider what it means to be "objective." I don't think it means "not taking a side ever" or "not expressing a judgment based on the facts." Instead, I think it means being as honest and forthright as possible, going in to each new report with an open mind, asking questions and then forming conclusions based on the best and most current information. I also think it means reporting above all else the FACTS and not personal judgments in substitute of the facts.
So I agree with you that a reporter should not call anyone an "idiot," because that is not factual information. There is no need for a journalist to inform the public that they think such-and-such a person is not intelligent. It does not present viewers with information that they can use, or that has a greater purpose.
HOWEVER, I don't think this means that a journalist must always give equal time to both sides of an argument if one, based on compelling evidence and research, is clearly more correct than another. If I interview two subjects and one of them tells me "water is wet" and the other says "water is not wet," my headline wouldn't be "Experts disagree on status of water." The truth, in this case, is evident, and should be reported above all else.
This, to me, is the #1 mistake made by contemporary journalists. They think that "objectivity" equals "balance," even when no real balance exists. Everything becomes "he said, she said." Republicans argued THIS while Democrats argued THAT. A journalists job is not to simply write down what is said and republish it...It's to collect the facts and then INFORM people based on those facts.
So I agree with you that a reporter should not call anyone an "idiot," because that is not factual information. There is no need for a journalist to inform the public that they think such-and-such a person is not intelligent. It does not present viewers with information that they can use, or that has a greater purpose.
HOWEVER, I don't think this means that a journalist must always give equal time to both sides of an argument if one, based on compelling evidence and research, is clearly more correct than another. If I interview two subjects and one of them tells me "water is wet" and the other says "water is not wet," my headline wouldn't be "Experts disagree on status of water." The truth, in this case, is evident, and should be reported above all else.
This, to me, is the #1 mistake made by contemporary journalists. They think that "objectivity" equals "balance," even when no real balance exists. Everything becomes "he said, she said." Republicans argued THIS while Democrats argued THAT. A journalists job is not to simply write down what is said and republish it...It's to collect the facts and then INFORM people based on those facts.
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October 01, 2009 12:42 AM
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Excellent answer, lon! My thoughts were much the same.
I happened to catch that very report yesterday while doing a couple of other things, and I was also shaking my head. My first thought was that they were both completely overdoing the "idiot" part, and overlooking the part where the person simply asked a question and there was no evidence of his or her personal feelings or intentions.
I was not surprised that the host was overdoing it, but was surprised that the "reporter" chimed in. I don't remember who the reporter was, but I seem to recall thinking that it must be one of the quasi-reporters who mainly just lets people know what is happening on CNN.com.
In my journalistic training and experience, it was very inappropriate. Completely carried away.
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I happened to catch that very report yesterday while doing a couple of other things, and I was also shaking my head. My first thought was that they were both completely overdoing the "idiot" part, and overlooking the part where the person simply asked a question and there was no evidence of his or her personal feelings or intentions.
I was not surprised that the host was overdoing it, but was surprised that the "reporter" chimed in. I don't remember who the reporter was, but I seem to recall thinking that it must be one of the quasi-reporters who mainly just lets people know what is happening on CNN.com.
In my journalistic training and experience, it was very inappropriate. Completely carried away.
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October 01, 2009 09:56 PM
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I believe Ion, while perhaps well intentioned, is entirely wrong. There are limits to one's ability to be truly neutral in any given matter as one cannot objectify the subjective anymore than generalise the specific, that much is true, the rest is tripe however.
Journalists are extremely privileged in their profession in as much as they are in a position to discern the face of truth through the veils of deception and have been largely trusted to do so. They establish sources to gauge context and authenticity in addition to possessing resources for investigating information and discriminating between what is substantiated fact and sensationalistic fodder. Within a society which values hard truths, however unsettling, and professional integrity, a reporter owes it to their clientele to remain as completely objective as possible. Obviously, certain subjective inclinations will reduce even the best work from being truly objective -the choice of the story, the facts considered, their representation are all facets of choices the journalist makes which will ultimately betray their bias in representing an issue- but merely because a thing is unattainable does not mean it should not be pursued.
I agree that the reporters you cite acted unprofessionally, but we live in an age where entertainers like Rachel Maddow and Rush Limbaugh contend for public opinion rather than investigative reporters, where O'Reilly and Olbermann are considered informed commentators while your nightly news is mostly for the weather and local insight. If you wish to take a wistful look at the decay of western society, read the comments made on the satirical news produced by The Onion on Youtube -many of the videos are quite poignant in illustrating conflicting or irrational aspects of American cultural, specifically in regards to the media and politics- but many of the remarks made in response by the viewing public affirm a preference for those pseudo reporting programmes over legitimate news sources.
Partially, this stems from a lack of confidence in the media, which has strayed far from the principles of objectivity it once espoused. Another possibility, and far more worrisome, is that contemporary Americans would rather be amused than informed, which could ultimately result in an uncritical and easily incited populace lending themselves to manipulation by empty sentiment and specious rationalisaion.
I do not, like Ion, believe a reporters job is to merely regurgitate information in single serving articles for easy consumption. I believe their responsibilities transcend merely repeating facts, but rather reporting the truths which linger behind the facts. It is a fact, for instance, that in the first Gulf War Iraq invaded Kuwait for oil. . .but the truth of the matter is the Kuwaiti's were drilling laterally into Iraqi oil deposits and Iraq was protecting its own sovereign soil and future prosperity, resorting only to arms after diplomatic measures failed. That does not in any way redeem the Iraqi regime, I am only making the point that facts are convenient and the truths behind them are usually more complex and infinitely more important and that objectivity is the tool by which journalists wring the irrelevant and extraneous facts from an issue until only the condensed, hard truth remains.
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Journalists are extremely privileged in their profession in as much as they are in a position to discern the face of truth through the veils of deception and have been largely trusted to do so. They establish sources to gauge context and authenticity in addition to possessing resources for investigating information and discriminating between what is substantiated fact and sensationalistic fodder. Within a society which values hard truths, however unsettling, and professional integrity, a reporter owes it to their clientele to remain as completely objective as possible. Obviously, certain subjective inclinations will reduce even the best work from being truly objective -the choice of the story, the facts considered, their representation are all facets of choices the journalist makes which will ultimately betray their bias in representing an issue- but merely because a thing is unattainable does not mean it should not be pursued.
I agree that the reporters you cite acted unprofessionally, but we live in an age where entertainers like Rachel Maddow and Rush Limbaugh contend for public opinion rather than investigative reporters, where O'Reilly and Olbermann are considered informed commentators while your nightly news is mostly for the weather and local insight. If you wish to take a wistful look at the decay of western society, read the comments made on the satirical news produced by The Onion on Youtube -many of the videos are quite poignant in illustrating conflicting or irrational aspects of American cultural, specifically in regards to the media and politics- but many of the remarks made in response by the viewing public affirm a preference for those pseudo reporting programmes over legitimate news sources.
Partially, this stems from a lack of confidence in the media, which has strayed far from the principles of objectivity it once espoused. Another possibility, and far more worrisome, is that contemporary Americans would rather be amused than informed, which could ultimately result in an uncritical and easily incited populace lending themselves to manipulation by empty sentiment and specious rationalisaion.
I do not, like Ion, believe a reporters job is to merely regurgitate information in single serving articles for easy consumption. I believe their responsibilities transcend merely repeating facts, but rather reporting the truths which linger behind the facts. It is a fact, for instance, that in the first Gulf War Iraq invaded Kuwait for oil. . .but the truth of the matter is the Kuwaiti's were drilling laterally into Iraqi oil deposits and Iraq was protecting its own sovereign soil and future prosperity, resorting only to arms after diplomatic measures failed. That does not in any way redeem the Iraqi regime, I am only making the point that facts are convenient and the truths behind them are usually more complex and infinitely more important and that objectivity is the tool by which journalists wring the irrelevant and extraneous facts from an issue until only the condensed, hard truth remains.
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October 01, 2009 11:23 PM
You said:
"I do not, like Ion, believe a reporters job is to merely regurgitate information in single serving articles for easy consumption."
Whereas I said:
"A journalists job is not to simply write down what is said and republish it...It's to collect the facts and then INFORM people based on those facts."
It sounds to me like we said exactly the same thing.
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"I do not, like Ion, believe a reporters job is to merely regurgitate information in single serving articles for easy consumption."
Whereas I said:
"A journalists job is not to simply write down what is said and republish it...It's to collect the facts and then INFORM people based on those facts."
It sounds to me like we said exactly the same thing.
October 03, 2009 02:54 AM
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Hmm... it depends on the media, but... at least in broadcast news, with *some* stations, they allow it as a matter of editorial policy for reporters who think they've got enough popular following to take the career risk of switching from reporting to editorializing to be allowed to take off the reporter hat and put on the editorial hat *after* the reporting is finished, and *after* they've made it clear to the audience that they're switching from reporting to editorializing... no?
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October 04, 2009 02:15 AM
Yeah, with journalists like Scotty Ritter or Ed Murrows I wouldn't have had a problem with that, even Safire and Konkite could have handled the responsibilities which accompanied such liberties with grace and decourum if not aplomb -people are capable of picking upon the point where reporting segues into editorial close, realising the end commentary is an opinion peice and not to be taken ex cathedra or anything. But between the anchor and reporter in the context for the question specified above, that doesn't hold as true. The danger isn't that people may confuse fact and opinion, but rather the risk is to the journalist's general integrity and standing the public they are informing. By all means, include editorial surmise if it is poignant, insightful or informative, but never idle speculation or emotionally derivative drivel.
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October 04, 2009 02:34 AM
Just a correction in the above, I typed Scotty Ritter but meant Scotty Reston. My apologies for the confusion.
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Objectivity is a tricky thing to define. I always treated my stories as fairly as I could unless there was a clear-cut, irrefutable fact or topic that was meant to make up the story itself. When writing about clearly conflicting sides (for example, a story I wrote on an abortion debate on my college campus a few years ago), I seek out the opinions and facts presented by both sides and balance the story as needed. When writing other stories (for example, stories on local crime), it can be difficult, if not impossible, to get ALL sides of the story (with my example, you're rarely ever going to get in touch with the offender or accused whether known or unknown). In the case of the story CNN was reporting, the reporter did well with the facts and research he reported. However, the way he and the anchor handled the intro to the story was more unethical than unobjective.
After re-reading my question, reading all the responses and comments and talking to a few of my friends about this particular broadcast incident, I think that saying they were not being objective was wrong. Once he started reporting the facts and information he found, he did really well, but to chime in with their own opinion was unethical and made the story sound like more of a joke than a serious offense.
Please forgive me for confusing objectivity as the problem rather than the matter of ethics.