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Is it OK to check a CD or DVD out from the library, rip the songs/movie on it to your computer, and return it?

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Marked as Best! October 18, 2009 09:52 PM
It's illegal, it's morally wrong, and people have been doing it since libraries had collections of vinyl records and consumers could buy cassette or reel-to-reel tape recorders.

The penalties for being caught ripping CD's/DVD's are the same now as they were for getting caught taping vinyl records then, and those penalties have real teeth if authorities find you with mountains of the stuff, and it's clear that you've been bootlegging (sharing).

It was, and still is, illegal to tape stuff off the air without grant of copyright, just like it's illegal to download and burn onto CD/DVD stuff off the net.

The more things change, the more some things stay the same, and ripping off an artist without paying at least the royalty is as illegal and immoral now as it has ever been.

Which means, by the way, it's okay to check out a CD/DVD from the library, rip it, return it, and pay the artist a royalty. Royalties are 3% of what the retail price of the CD/DVD would have been off the shelf, so if the Recommended Retail (quoted by the publisher) for the CD/DVD is $10.00, then if you Paypal 30 cents to the artist, you're off the hook.
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October 19, 2009 01:41 AM
Finally, a voice of reason! Thank you! There is so much WRONG and misinformation in the other comments here I was thinking the world was gone crazy!

(psst, royalties are not always the same - the 3% is a guild number, I'm sure, but not all artists are part of the guild, and those with good agents get better percentages.) But you're really only off the hook if the copyright holder agrees to that arrangement.
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October 18, 2009 03:21 AM
I do believe most cds/dvds are illegal to copy in general let alone from a library.
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October 18, 2009 03:42 AM
Ripping songs and movies off cd's and dvd's is not only wrong to do, it's illegal. It would be similar to checking out a book from the library, photocopying the pages, and then returning it. Either way you are stealing the information that was rented from the library.
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October 18, 2009 04:04 AM
I think it is pretty much stealing so therefore it is wrong and illegal. It has been called piracy for that reason. I would think that libraries would somehow make it where it can't be copied.
Does that type of protection exist?
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October 18, 2009 12:18 PM
They tried a form a copy protection with VHS tapes at one point, but the process was expensive and wasn't widely used.
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October 18, 2009 07:58 AM
It's both wrong and illegal. Morally and ethically, it's wrong. Do people do it? Yes. Most people aren't aware that in some instances, doing it could be a felony offense. For example, if you rip it and put it on your computer and then share it with anyone, even just a friend, you risk a felony for distributing unlicensed copyright protected material.

The people who get paid residuals for the work won't get a penny off a burned and ripped copy. I'm a writer, so those things matter to me. When writers are getting literally pennies or fractions of pennies in some cases for each copy sold, even one pirated copy makes a difference, one person thinking it's okay cuts into my income (or others like me who write for residuals).

The internet and technology changes the way things are, the landscape, etc, for distribution and viewing/watching/reading, but it shouldn't change the morality and legality of something.

Really good question! It's one I think more people should read, because honestly, there are truly people out there who think that since the technology exists to make it possible, there's no reason you can't do it. Some people just don't know any better!
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October 18, 2009 08:07 AM
Cite one case where an individual has been successfully prosecuted for making an electronic copy of their own CD for personal use.
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October 18, 2009 08:34 AM
First, you said 'their own' and the question was about rented copies - NOT purchased copies. Second, I didn't say for a personal-use copy. I specifically said that in some instances it could be a felony, such as sharing it being considered distribution. I don't have to cite one case of that - just look at the multitude of insanity that begat the RIAA cases.

Whether a case is prosecuted or not, the criminal offense does exist.

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To say otherwise is like stating that it's okay to break the law as long as you don't get caught. Sure, go ahead and murder that man, just don't let anyone see you do it. The offenses are a great divide in atrocity, but the law is still the law.
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October 18, 2009 05:08 PM
The RIAA has never prosecuted anyone for making personal copies of copyright materials.

The original poster never mentioned anything about making copies and engaging in illegal distribution.

The reason why people have been put in jail for murder is because it is illegal. The reason why no one has been prosecuted for making a personal copy of a CD is because it is not illegal.
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October 19, 2009 01:38 AM
You obviously need to reread what the question was referencing. It is absolutely against the law for someone to take a DVD or CD that they RENTED from a video store or library and make a copy of it - period.

There is no moral debate there. If you didn't buy a copy of it, it's not yours to even consider making a copy of, even if you were right about the personal use copy (and you're not).
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October 18, 2009 08:01 AM
Yes it is fine and it is legal if it is for your own personal use. It is no more illegal than recording a broadcasted movie on your VCR.
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October 18, 2009 03:27 PM
You need to check the copyright instructions for that media. Most media allow rip it for personal use. But it is illegal to transmit or spread. Also for some media ripping is also illegal.
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October 18, 2009 05:03 PM
This is completely legal and totally fine ethically, the library buys special licenses to rent these out for personal use, the copyright holders were already paid for you to use this in anyway you see fit (for personal use only), if you check out a book or movie you have every right to make a copy for your own personal use, if you were to turn around and sell it on ebay than you are making an illegal and unethical move, copyright laws are to protect the copyright holder from losing money on sales, if no sales have taken place and you haven't given the tape to anyone as a gift (gift implies that it has value) or shown it in a mass screening for your entire neighborhood than you are perfectly safe and correct. That is the purpose of a library, otherwise you could just go and check it out every week...this makes no sense. no one has ever been prosecuted for copying any media from a library for personal or educational use. yes you can legally copy books movies music and anyother type of media for classroom use if you are a teacher. This is common practice in education and is usually written on the inside of most books that it is okay for educational use. People are only worried about situations where money is exchanging hands for something they own the copyright for.
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October 18, 2009 06:46 PM
Special license or not, every library has a "Terms of Use" statement that you sign when you apply for your library card which states the library does not grant nor imply permission to violate any copyright licenses held by the owners of such copyrights. Most terms also contain a statement which says you will not use the library or its property for any unlawful or prohibited use. Although copyright violations may never been prosecuted by any library that is not to say they have given up the right to do so. The site listed below may show some insight as to what could be happening in the world of file sharing. In a nutshell, if you can go to jail or pay a fine for doing it, then it is illegal.
 
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http://tarlton.law.utexas.edu/copyright/101609_10TxREnt_145.pdf
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October 18, 2009 11:40 PM
i would lol
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August 03, 2010 08:42 AM
I use the dvd ripper to rip dvd to computer.
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http://www.ripdvd.biz/
http://www.macdvdripper.biz/
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