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Should cloned animals be used for food?
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October 06, 2009 08:28 PM
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If cloning technology were perfect, then there'd still be no difference between killing a cloned animal and killing the original, any more than it's okay to shoot an identical twin who was born three minutes after its other twin, for identical twins are technically natural clones, but they're still equal humans.
However, currently, artificial cloning technology is not perfected. In fact, given current methods of cloning, cloned animals are not as healthy as the original, so the best anyone could make for the case is that they'd be puting the clones out of their misery, and the more obvious case is that now not only are we going to be killing an animal to eat it, we're going to make them suffer more in the meantime before doing so.
However, what makes a lot more sense is vat-production of the meats that we want from the animals.
If we've got the technolgoy to clone an animal, we've got the technology to take out just some muscle tissue, and trigger that to grow in a vat, to produce just a vat of muscle tissue, and in fact, technology like that is used to produce expensive skin-replacement for burn victums.
All we have to do is get the cost down, and the way to do that is use methods of mass production like are being abused in the mass operation of factory farms, to just "ferment" the cells of the tissues that we want to eat.
Once scaled up, it would be a lot cheeper than operating a factory farm, because you can just feed the vat basic nutrients, and it would be easier to keep sterile so you wouldn't have to worry about abuses of anibiotics, and it would be more efficient, because all the food energy of the suplements would be going to grow the food tissue instead of all those other parts of the food that the animal craps out and/or becomes body parts sent to the rendering plant.
However, currently, artificial cloning technology is not perfected. In fact, given current methods of cloning, cloned animals are not as healthy as the original, so the best anyone could make for the case is that they'd be puting the clones out of their misery, and the more obvious case is that now not only are we going to be killing an animal to eat it, we're going to make them suffer more in the meantime before doing so.
However, what makes a lot more sense is vat-production of the meats that we want from the animals.
If we've got the technolgoy to clone an animal, we've got the technology to take out just some muscle tissue, and trigger that to grow in a vat, to produce just a vat of muscle tissue, and in fact, technology like that is used to produce expensive skin-replacement for burn victums.
All we have to do is get the cost down, and the way to do that is use methods of mass production like are being abused in the mass operation of factory farms, to just "ferment" the cells of the tissues that we want to eat.
Once scaled up, it would be a lot cheeper than operating a factory farm, because you can just feed the vat basic nutrients, and it would be easier to keep sterile so you wouldn't have to worry about abuses of anibiotics, and it would be more efficient, because all the food energy of the suplements would be going to grow the food tissue instead of all those other parts of the food that the animal craps out and/or becomes body parts sent to the rendering plant.
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October 06, 2009 12:02 AM
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I will leave aside the question of whether or not we should even eat animals for food. According to the FDA the "meat and milk from cow, pig, and goat clones and the offspring of any animal clones are as safe as food we eat every day". This is good enough for me. I rely on the scientists and agencies like the FDA to let me/us know if the food we eat is safe. Whenever something goes wrong in the food chain (at least in the US), the food is pulled from the shelves immediately. I tend to be optimistic and believe that should cloned food turn out to be unhealthy for us humans then it will be pulled from the shelves.
Now, this is coming from a man who still believes that when it comes to nutrition, it is better to eat then not eat!
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October 06, 2009 02:12 AM
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On the one hand is no. Since, there is no long term study done on the effects of eating cloned animals.
On the other hand yes. We have been eating genetic modified and cloned crops for hundreds if not thousands of years. Of course, it depends on your definition of cloning. Plants have been cloned from its parent plant since there has been farming.
Animals and plans have been crossbread with out a lab to get the best traits desired by the farmer.
Remember a cloned animal is simply the implaning the DNA nuclues of an unfertilized egg from a removed nucleus that has been removed.
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On the other hand yes. We have been eating genetic modified and cloned crops for hundreds if not thousands of years. Of course, it depends on your definition of cloning. Plants have been cloned from its parent plant since there has been farming.
Animals and plans have been crossbread with out a lab to get the best traits desired by the farmer.
Remember a cloned animal is simply the implaning the DNA nuclues of an unfertilized egg from a removed nucleus that has been removed.
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October 06, 2009 07:36 AM
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I feel cloned animals should be used for food. The fact is simple, we, as humans, are starting to exceed our land space. The less land space, the less land for food. As cloned animals are grown, so to speak, in labs, then they would know no differnet if they were kept in lab's or small areas. Cloned animals would mean that we would also never have to worry about killing out an entire race of animal. If you are one of the few that think that animals have souls, as I do, then also a cloned animal can not have a soul as it was made by us. I personally do not feel that eating meat of a cloned animal would be any different then eating the meat of an animal that has be feed enhandced or altered food. One of the bigger problems with this thought however is that even if it were allowed, the cost to clone an animal currently is TBD. As cloning is still a work in progress. But here is what the cost was to clone Dolly. Dolly cost a total of approximately $750,000. So with that being said, a normal Jersey cow weighs 700 to 1,000 pounds. For this we'll say an even 900 pounds. So you take the cost of a cow and divide it by the weight, then and the mark up cost, and we'll say the mark up cost is 0.75 cents per pound. So it would cost you, $834.08 per pound. So, as I do think that it would be okay to eat the meat of a cloned animal, I personally could not afford to. But should we ever be able to do this. And at a cheap rate then yes I would eat it.
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October 06, 2009 04:04 PM
I believe animals have souls as well, but how do you know a cloned animal doesn't have a soul? I'm asking this honestly, not sarcastically, as I've toyed with becoming a vegan just because I hate what they do to animals to produce meat. It's not like old Betsy living out her years in a field happy and content and then when she drops dead of natural causes they butcher her. Oh no! The beef you eat is processed in the most profitable (and horrifying) way possible, making horrible lives for the animals, feeding them a mixture of their own fecal matter and shredded newspaper to cut down on the cost of feed. The meat we all eat comes from the most horrible life we could ever imagine a creature living on this Earth.
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October 06, 2009 08:32 AM
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Here's an interesting article in clonesafety.org that explains how safe cloned animal can be "more than 1,200 biotechnology companies, academic institutions, state biotechnology centers and related organizations across the United States and in more than 30 other nations"(1)
In my opinion, as long as it's a source of energy there's not an issue. I would never raise a chicken and then later on eat it, but if someone else would prepare it for me I don't have a problem eating it. Same with cloned animals, after all I wouldn't see it being butchered.
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In my opinion, as long as it's a source of energy there's not an issue. I would never raise a chicken and then later on eat it, but if someone else would prepare it for me I don't have a problem eating it. Same with cloned animals, after all I wouldn't see it being butchered.
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October 06, 2009 04:00 PM
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I don't believe so. Not without adequate testing. The argument is, it only takes one atom to be out of place on a molecule to turn a benign substance into a toxic one. For example, the chemical make up of water is H20. Hydrogen peroxide is H2O2. This means, hydrogen peroxide has but one extra oxygen atom in it's makeup compared to water, yet hydrogen peroxide will kill you if you drink it. So, essentially, one tiny little change in the chemical makeup of a substance can mean the difference between a healthy and a deadly substance. So, who's to say a cloned animal doesn't have a slightly different chemical make up making it dangerous for human consumption?
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October 07, 2009 01:19 AM
The whole point of cloning is that they are exactly the same as the animal that was cloned, genetically. You need some reason to think otherwise. But there has been testing, and no differences have been found.
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October 06, 2009 07:12 PM
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I would be hesitant to eat any myself (who knows maybe I already have) as the testing has not been clearly researched and defined by me or explained to me to my satisfaction.
I will give you a 100% guarantee that if you ask a hungry person if the want to eat a cloned anything they will say yes.
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I will give you a 100% guarantee that if you ask a hungry person if the want to eat a cloned anything they will say yes.
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October 06, 2009 08:25 PM
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I would definitely eat cloned food. It's not like it can affect us, it's a normal cow (or pork). Who just happens to have many copies of itself. Although, a few things that could go wrong are the extinction of cattle or other farm animals. Put it this way, if the food industry just needs one or two DNA samples or animals, why keep a whole bunch of them? There would be hundreds of cows still alive but they are all exactly the same. It would be weird but It all sounds really cool, like from a movie based in the future. :D
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