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Who are we to tell Saudi Arabia how to conduct affairs?
Does America have any moral standing to suggest to tell Saudi how to punish their own citizens?
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I think that's an interesting question because we try to take the high ground about cruel and unusual punishment around the world while still allowing torture in our military prisons.
However, I personally believe that done delicately, we should be trying to influence the ways other countries punish their criminals just as other countries attempt to influence how we punish ours.
The reality is that the globe today is a very integrated community and we are working toward tghe development of international standards for everything from a uiversal bill of human rights to international health and safety standards. Someone has to take the lead in these things and while we need to not pretend to be better than the rest of the world, we do need to offer guidance and suggestions developed from our own failures.
However, I personally believe that done delicately, we should be trying to influence the ways other countries punish their criminals just as other countries attempt to influence how we punish ours.
The reality is that the globe today is a very integrated community and we are working toward tghe development of international standards for everything from a uiversal bill of human rights to international health and safety standards. Someone has to take the lead in these things and while we need to not pretend to be better than the rest of the world, we do need to offer guidance and suggestions developed from our own failures.
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November 02, 2009 01:37 AM
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I've wondered this often with regard to many international affairs. I wish sometimes we could focus entirely on our country and could also mind our own business sometimes. I don't know who we are that we have to regulate the world and protect and guide everyone else.
As a stronger country, I suppose we do owe our protection and support when there are crimes against humanity, but often times there is plenty of problem and things going on in our own country that we could use a bit more support and protection from.
Who are we to tell Saudi Arabia what to do about anything? I couldn't say. When you look at it, they seem to be doing quite well without our two cents.
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As a stronger country, I suppose we do owe our protection and support when there are crimes against humanity, but often times there is plenty of problem and things going on in our own country that we could use a bit more support and protection from.
Who are we to tell Saudi Arabia what to do about anything? I couldn't say. When you look at it, they seem to be doing quite well without our two cents.
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Diplomacy, such as war, is a means towards a political end. When the actions of another nation have direct bearing over the interests of your own nation, then both means are justified.
Trying to engineer social norms patterned after your own should never be the goal of one nation over an other. Customs and habits which are reasonable to one people may be objectionable to another. Neither side has the moral high ground on this.
The same way that the U.S. should not open itself blindly to the scrutiny of the world and to the jurisdiction of a world court, neither should the U.S. impose its morality or social order on other nations.
Basically, if you need me or I need you, I will fight with you or for you. You threaten me, I will fight you and seek to destroy you. If we are both fine, then you live your life and I'll live mine.
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Trying to engineer social norms patterned after your own should never be the goal of one nation over an other. Customs and habits which are reasonable to one people may be objectionable to another. Neither side has the moral high ground on this.
The same way that the U.S. should not open itself blindly to the scrutiny of the world and to the jurisdiction of a world court, neither should the U.S. impose its morality or social order on other nations.
Basically, if you need me or I need you, I will fight with you or for you. You threaten me, I will fight you and seek to destroy you. If we are both fine, then you live your life and I'll live mine.
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