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Would you honor an agreement that costs your life?
Hypothetically: If you and three other people were in a plane that could only complete the flight if one of you jumped (no parachutes), and you agreed to draw straws, would you jump willingly if you got the short straw, or would you fight until they overcame you or until you threw one of them off? I'd fight.
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I would jump.
It's part of the codes of Odinism to uphold ones word in all cases and to show no fear in the eyes of the death the fates hand to you. This is the way to Valhalla.
If I agreed to straw pulling I agreed and I gave me word, it would be cowardice to take it back simply because I drew the shortest straw. You know in that situation someone will, someone is going to sacrifice themselves for the greater good or everyone will die. If you weren't willing to make this sacrifice you should never agree to straw pulling in the first place.
I would however likely attempt to make a make-shift parachute before jumping. My honor is not hurt by improvisation. :)
http://mysearch.ph/parachuting/how-to-survive-without-a-parachute.htm
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It's part of the codes of Odinism to uphold ones word in all cases and to show no fear in the eyes of the death the fates hand to you. This is the way to Valhalla.
If I agreed to straw pulling I agreed and I gave me word, it would be cowardice to take it back simply because I drew the shortest straw. You know in that situation someone will, someone is going to sacrifice themselves for the greater good or everyone will die. If you weren't willing to make this sacrifice you should never agree to straw pulling in the first place.
I would however likely attempt to make a make-shift parachute before jumping. My honor is not hurt by improvisation. :)
http://mysearch.ph/parachuting/how-to-survive-without-a-parachute.htm
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November 12, 2009 02:23 AM
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I lost my whole answer...note to self, don't select the interesting button until the answer is completely submitted.
Anyway, my point in the answer was that most people would fight or at the very least ask for a do over on the straw drawing. The problem is, whether you can live with the fact that you fought or didn't honor the agreement. Even if someone else "lost" fair and square, it would be a difficult thing to live with on your conscience.
I would try my hardest to think of another solution so that no one had to jump. I know that wasn't a choice, but I know for a fact that whether I lost the straw pull and didn't honor it or if someone else lost and did, it would be a difficult thing to live my life with afterwards.
There has to be something else to toss off the plane ;)
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Anyway, my point in the answer was that most people would fight or at the very least ask for a do over on the straw drawing. The problem is, whether you can live with the fact that you fought or didn't honor the agreement. Even if someone else "lost" fair and square, it would be a difficult thing to live with on your conscience.
I would try my hardest to think of another solution so that no one had to jump. I know that wasn't a choice, but I know for a fact that whether I lost the straw pull and didn't honor it or if someone else lost and did, it would be a difficult thing to live my life with afterwards.
There has to be something else to toss off the plane ;)
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November 12, 2009 03:43 AM
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You have pointed out one of the reasons why drawing straws likely won't work. I would not agree to draw straws in the first place, so there would not be a problem with me not honoring an agreement.
A better system would be that either someone volunteers to jump or you all die. Life is not fair, and neither is death.
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A better system would be that either someone volunteers to jump or you all die. Life is not fair, and neither is death.
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November 12, 2009 04:01 PM
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I'm sorry, but why would you make such an agreement? FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FOR LIFE!!!
Besides, in planes there are many chairs. RIP ALL THE CHAIRS UP and throw them out. There, the weight requirements are met. Whew, nuff said. Who cares if that wasn't part of your question, I answered it that way. LOL
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Besides, in planes there are many chairs. RIP ALL THE CHAIRS UP and throw them out. There, the weight requirements are met. Whew, nuff said. Who cares if that wasn't part of your question, I answered it that way. LOL
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November 12, 2009 08:22 PM
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Interesting question. In the real world people everyday give up their lives to honor an agreement. Members of the armed forces, police officers, fire fighters; they all enter into work agreements that they know could occasion them to give up their lives in the execution of their duties at some point. Sadly, many actually do.
They of course have the added impulse not just of living up to an agreement, but also to serve a higher ideal, protecting another individual, defending one's country, saving the injured. In the situation you describe, those elements are not present, so a more personal choice has to be made.
If the agreement had been forced on anybody, then the instinct of self survival will kick in. However, if it was truly the only option and all saw it that way, then I don't see a problem arising, since one would have been resigned to it before the draw.
At least that's how I think I would react. If it were forced on me, I'd fight, if I was convinced, I'd accept it.
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They of course have the added impulse not just of living up to an agreement, but also to serve a higher ideal, protecting another individual, defending one's country, saving the injured. In the situation you describe, those elements are not present, so a more personal choice has to be made.
If the agreement had been forced on anybody, then the instinct of self survival will kick in. However, if it was truly the only option and all saw it that way, then I don't see a problem arising, since one would have been resigned to it before the draw.
At least that's how I think I would react. If it were forced on me, I'd fight, if I was convinced, I'd accept it.
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