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I want to take martial arts, but I am lean on both time and money. I was thinking about getting a video or two. What videos are worthwhile?
. . . and what style or styles work well for solitary practice?
I am looking for a practical style that will help me stay in shape.
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October 06, 2009 10:09 PM
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I think all the posts before forgot something.
Cheapgamer I need some info from you.
1) Have you taken any martial arts before? If so what?
2) Have you ever taken up dance, Yoga, or wrestling? They have similar movements.
If you have taken martial arts before then just continue what you where doing.
There are many types of martial arts. I will list them in lamins terms.
1) striking
2) grappling/trapping <-- many martial arts don't like this term
3) combo
Striking arts are easier to practice on your own. People belt much fast in these styles.
Grappling/trapping are much harder to practice because they really need a partner. Takes the longest to belt.
Combo are a style that has both elements.
styles
taekwondo is usually the cheapest style around. A good style to get into shape with. It was designed to kick sameri off horses. I joking call this style the old form of Tai Bo. Anyway it is the national sport of south korea. Some people consider it the sport form of Tang soo do. You know the style Chuck Norris uses. Tang soo do is ok but taekwondo has a rep of having a lot of belt factories, meaning you don't leran much and they take your money. They have a flexible schedules.
I think you need to do a verity of thinks here. Answers:
you said you have little time or money.
1)Join a club they are super cheap anywhere from $0 to $60 a mouth. At a collage or univerisy they have a class that 1cr 1 or 2 times a week so at a collage at $60 per credit hour thats cheap. $60 for 4 mouths of class.
2) By some books on self training. Links to examples.
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Flexibility-Complete-Stretching-Martial/dp/1880336839/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_c
http://www.amazon.com/Solo-Training-Building-Effective-Grappling/dp/188033688X/ref=pd_sim_b_7
http://www.amazon.com/Solo-Training-Martial-Artists-Guide/dp/1880336596/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254862641&sr=8-1
3) here are some Videos
http://www.amazon.com/Fight-Night/dp/B002FLG7IQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=digital-video&qid=1254862097&sr=8-5
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_7?url=search-alias%3Damazontv&field-keywords=tai+chi+dvd&sprefix=tai+chi
The best videos in martial arts for self training is tai chi, because they have been doing it for decades now. It is good for heath but I think you want a more cardio work out, am I right? then a cardo video that has martial arts as the base will do it.
The solo trainer books I listed have a lot of details on videos and stuff so check those books out. I recommend you join a cheap club. Clubs don't have contracts and you can come and go as you please. Try to go weekly or mouthy and the teacher or head student can fix your form and give you home work to do. Then work on when you can. Think of it as having a personal trainer. if you had one at the gym they only see 1 or 2 times a mouth same thing.
I hope this was useful
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Cheapgamer I need some info from you.
1) Have you taken any martial arts before? If so what?
2) Have you ever taken up dance, Yoga, or wrestling? They have similar movements.
If you have taken martial arts before then just continue what you where doing.
There are many types of martial arts. I will list them in lamins terms.
1) striking
2) grappling/trapping <-- many martial arts don't like this term
3) combo
Striking arts are easier to practice on your own. People belt much fast in these styles.
Grappling/trapping are much harder to practice because they really need a partner. Takes the longest to belt.
Combo are a style that has both elements.
styles
taekwondo is usually the cheapest style around. A good style to get into shape with. It was designed to kick sameri off horses. I joking call this style the old form of Tai Bo. Anyway it is the national sport of south korea. Some people consider it the sport form of Tang soo do. You know the style Chuck Norris uses. Tang soo do is ok but taekwondo has a rep of having a lot of belt factories, meaning you don't leran much and they take your money. They have a flexible schedules.
I think you need to do a verity of thinks here. Answers:
you said you have little time or money.
1)Join a club they are super cheap anywhere from $0 to $60 a mouth. At a collage or univerisy they have a class that 1cr 1 or 2 times a week so at a collage at $60 per credit hour thats cheap. $60 for 4 mouths of class.
2) By some books on self training. Links to examples.
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Flexibility-Complete-Stretching-Martial/dp/1880336839/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_c
http://www.amazon.com/Solo-Training-Building-Effective-Grappling/dp/188033688X/ref=pd_sim_b_7
http://www.amazon.com/Solo-Training-Martial-Artists-Guide/dp/1880336596/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254862641&sr=8-1
3) here are some Videos
http://www.amazon.com/Fight-Night/dp/B002FLG7IQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=digital-video&qid=1254862097&sr=8-5
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_7?url=search-alias%3Damazontv&field-keywords=tai+chi+dvd&sprefix=tai+chi
The best videos in martial arts for self training is tai chi, because they have been doing it for decades now. It is good for heath but I think you want a more cardio work out, am I right? then a cardo video that has martial arts as the base will do it.
The solo trainer books I listed have a lot of details on videos and stuff so check those books out. I recommend you join a cheap club. Clubs don't have contracts and you can come and go as you please. Try to go weekly or mouthy and the teacher or head student can fix your form and give you home work to do. Then work on when you can. Think of it as having a personal trainer. if you had one at the gym they only see 1 or 2 times a mouth same thing.
I hope this was useful
personal experance I have done what I just told you to do.
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October 06, 2009 04:01 PM
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Kung Fu forms are definitely fun for individual practice. I use them to develop posture, flexibility and strength. Plus, they're a good time.
Check out Wing Lam.
http://www.wle.com/store/wlv_shaolin_dvd.html
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Check out Wing Lam.
http://www.wle.com/store/wlv_shaolin_dvd.html
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videos do not take the place of a martial arts class. I have been practicing taekwondo for 2 years. The level of training you get in the gym cannot be replicated on DVD. Many school offer free training whether for a day, week or month. Check out your local schools. they may even be able to work with you financially.
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October 06, 2009 04:35 PM
I agree with this. If you have the option to take real life classes, there is nothing better. If just want something that you don't want to commit to and something to do in your free time, the videos are great for that.
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October 06, 2009 05:09 PM
I've been down this road, classes near me are at odd hours with no flexibility or private lessons with tons of flexibility at prices I can't justify.
It is a video, book, or nothing. Care to change your answer based on this?
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It is a video, book, or nothing. Care to change your answer based on this?
October 06, 2009 05:14 PM
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I agree videos are not the same, you need somebody skilled to actually physically work with you, I do mixed martial arts and it's very reasonable it's 50 dollars a month and if you can't afford it that month theywork with you, I would IMagine most places are similar, call around and get prices, our clases run Monday through Saturday and you can come freely
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October 06, 2009 05:18 PM
It is a video, book, or nothing. Care to change your answer based on this? ($50 classes!!! where do you live that classes are that cheap!?)
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I tried both videos and real classes, and in the end, there was no comparison at all. The class with a live human instructor was the only way to go.
I started with vids - in my case it was an issue with time - and I really though I had learned something, and then one day I got in a spat and got creamed, even though I was just trying to be purely defensive.
So... I *found* the time, and went to a class, and the instructor asked me if I knew anything already, and so I told him about the vids and showed him what I'd taught myself, and he sort of rolled his eyes and shook his head, and we took up some of the positions I thought I'd learned, and he showed me some subtle differences to how I was posturing myself to how it should actually be.
Like I said, they were subtle differences, not easy to see on the vid, and maybe I just had vids that were too amateurish or poorly made, but it really did make a ton of difference. I could feel it right away, with the way it shifted center of gravity, and stuff like that.
So... I have to recommend real live training, so if you've got a problem with time and money, I found that I could make the time, which leaves cost, so...
Hmm... most places have community based martial arts training, payed for by a service club or some community organization.
Otherwise... form a co-op. Find a bunch people like yourself, low on cash, and see what you guys can put together service-wise that an instructor might like - something like fix a balcony or paint a fense - and make a deal. One of the side-effects of good training is that it levels out your head, which means that good instructors tend to have fairly level heads, which means they're less neurotic about being paid in coinage for everything, and can have good minds for seeing through to the value of creative compensation.
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I started with vids - in my case it was an issue with time - and I really though I had learned something, and then one day I got in a spat and got creamed, even though I was just trying to be purely defensive.
So... I *found* the time, and went to a class, and the instructor asked me if I knew anything already, and so I told him about the vids and showed him what I'd taught myself, and he sort of rolled his eyes and shook his head, and we took up some of the positions I thought I'd learned, and he showed me some subtle differences to how I was posturing myself to how it should actually be.
Like I said, they were subtle differences, not easy to see on the vid, and maybe I just had vids that were too amateurish or poorly made, but it really did make a ton of difference. I could feel it right away, with the way it shifted center of gravity, and stuff like that.
So... I have to recommend real live training, so if you've got a problem with time and money, I found that I could make the time, which leaves cost, so...
Hmm... most places have community based martial arts training, payed for by a service club or some community organization.
Otherwise... form a co-op. Find a bunch people like yourself, low on cash, and see what you guys can put together service-wise that an instructor might like - something like fix a balcony or paint a fense - and make a deal. One of the side-effects of good training is that it levels out your head, which means that good instructors tend to have fairly level heads, which means they're less neurotic about being paid in coinage for everything, and can have good minds for seeing through to the value of creative compensation.
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October 06, 2009 06:14 PM
The question is "What videos are worthwhile?" Not are videos better then a teacher, I am very well aware that a teacher is better. The above ideas are great, but I have 9-10 PM available 4 days a week. Not a single studio in my area accomodates this unless I take very expensive private classes. I can get like minded people and look for a free instructor, but I would need a place to train as my condo would not fit a class of more than 2-3 people
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I call Kempo the art of the b*** slap, because there was a lot of slaping stuff out of the way and then trying to knock the other guys block off.
Oh buy the way buy a standing pouching bag, that helps a lot.
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