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Where do you stand on the Swine Flu vaccination?

HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is urging us all to get it, and in fact the MSNBC headline reads "American's must get swine flu shot". ON the same page, MSNBC caries an article titled "Many parents wary of swine, seasonal flu shots". Should the flu shots be mandatory or optional? Are you and your family planning to get shots? Why or why not?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33207176/ns/health-swine_flu/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33201402/ns/health-swine_flu/?ns=health-swine_flu
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Marked as Best! October 09, 2009 08:14 PM
I do not plan to get a swine flu shot. One was enough for me. I was in law school during the 1976-77 swine flu crisis that never materialized. The government and the university were strongly urging all students to have the shot. I drove two of my girlfriends to the gym where the shots were given. No one said anything about a possible reaction. Minutes after having the shot, I felt so bad that I barely made it back to the car. I just collapsed in the back seat, and my friends drove me home. I have no recollection of how I made it upstairs to my apartment or what happened the rest of the day. I was lucky compared to most who had reactions to those shots because I felt better the next day. Unfortunately, some died and others developed very serious, life-threatening diseases.

This round of swine flu shots is not supposed to produce the kinds of reactions that we saw in the 70's. But I still think I'll pass.
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Ex-CDC head recalls '76 swine flu outgreak (Apr. 30, 2009)
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/30/swine.flu.1976/index.html
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October 07, 2009 08:14 PM
A resounding NO! Any time the government 'urges' us to do something, I stay well clear of it. If it was so important, why aren't people coming to my home and asking me to stick my arm out? Now, I am not saying that it's a total scam, but I do not believe it to be near as important as folks are making out.

Besides, sometimes the flu shot can GIVE you the flu. I'll take my chances and sit at home, writing, rolling my eyes. There is no “epidemic” happening. And if there IS, I guess my decision will come back to haunt me lol! :)
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October 08, 2009 12:35 AM
False. The flu shot can NOT give you the flu. Flu shots, including the H1N1 vaccine, are made from killed flu virus. This means that the virus, not being alive, cannot infect you with flu.

Only the nasal spray versions of the vaccines feature weakened "live" viruses.
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October 08, 2009 12:36 AM
Oops, here's my source for that information. Don't take my word for it: http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/29/first.h1n1.vaccine/index.html
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October 08, 2009 01:22 PM
It may not give you the flu, but I was a junior in HS the last time the governement urged us all to get swine flu shots, I still remember President Ford getting his. Here's what happened then, before they halted the program due to the controversy:

"Overall, there were 1098 cases of Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) recorded nationwide by CDC surveillance, 532 of which were linked to the NIIP vaccination, resulting in death from severe pulmonary complications for 25 people, which, according to Dr. P. Haber, were probably caused by an immunopathological reaction to the 1976 vaccine."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_influenza
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October 07, 2009 08:19 PM
I unfortunately had the swine flu back in June, my mom and I were both diagnosed with a new strand. It is very nasty had a 104.9 temp. at one point. However since the shots will be the active virus it most likely will make a lot of people ill. Only those with outstanding health MAY be able to skate by without feeling ill. So it's up to everyone what they personally want to do who knows a new strand can start tomorrow...get your shot Monday but there is a whole new strand on Thursday....then what good did it do you? Since I had the flu already I'm not bothering...but like I said...chose for yourself...don't let the government control you anymore then they already are
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October 07, 2009 08:20 PM
I will refuse it. They can practice on someone else. it will take 20 years of use to be able to study all of the side effect of this vaccine.
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October 07, 2009 09:32 PM
I take medications that supresses my immune system so...no, I most definitely will not be getting one. I struggled over this decision for days before coming to this conclusion.
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October 07, 2009 10:45 PM
From http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2009/10/12/091012taco_talk_specter :

"In fact, the new H1N1 virus is similar to seasonal flu in its severity. In the United States, influenza regularly ranks among the ten leading causes of death, infecting up to twenty per cent of the population. It kills roughly thirty-five thousand Americans every year and sends hundreds of thousands to the hospital. Even relatively mild pandemics, like those of 1957 and 1968, have been health-care disasters: the first killed two million people and the second a million.

We are more fortunate than our predecessors, though. Scientists produced a vaccine rapidly; it will be available within weeks. And, though this H1N1 virus is novel, the vaccine is not. It was made and tested in exactly the same way that flu vaccines are always made and tested. Had this strain of flu emerged just a few months earlier, there would not have been any need for two vaccines this year; 2009 H1N1 would simply have been included as one of the components in the annual vaccine.

Meanwhile, the virus has now appeared in a hundred and ninety-one countries. It has killed almost four thousand people and infected millions of others. The risks are clear and so are the facts. But, while scientists and public-health officials have dealt effectively with the disease, they increasingly confront a different kind of contagion: the spurious alarms spread by those who would make us fear vaccines more than the illnesses they prevent"

In short, if you harbor suspicions about the H1N1 vaccine and not the seasonal flu vaccine, just put on your tinfoil hat and go back to your bunker already.
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October 08, 2009 01:49 AM
From the second article, 41% will definitely get seasonal flu shots and 35% definitely will try to get Swine Flu shots. 22% will not get season flu shots, 14% will not get Swine flu shots. A larger group is undecided because of the newness of the vaccine. None of them mentioned conspiracy, foil hats or bunkers, but just in case, how does this one look (I want kitty to be safe too).

www.flickr.com/photos/94515279@N00/1505091017/

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October 08, 2009 05:00 AM
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October 07, 2009 10:51 PM
I guess I see it differently than everyone else. If the vaccine is available I'll get it for myself and for my 5 year old daughter, especially for her. It's bad enough when she gets the regular flu, and with things so easily caught at school I'd just rather get the vaccine. I certainly don't want to be the parent who decides not to and spreads something around to everyone who doesn't get the vaccine.

However, if there is a limited supply of the vaccines, I will not get it for myself. I think it's far more important for those more at risk to be able to get the vaccines (ie children and the elderly). As a healthy 30 something, I can't remember the last time I had the regular flu or even a cold so I probably won't need the vaccine. Even when my daughter has the flu or something I don't catch it.

It should be a choice though. I would just hate for people to not get the vaccine simply because they view it as some kind of government conspiracy or to not allow their children to get it because they "don't want anyone controlling them".

At the end of the day it's about being healthy and keeping our loved ones healthy and we should keep that in mind.
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October 08, 2009 02:00 AM
I think you're right about people not wanting to be forced, and maybe more would get it if it was voluntary, although over half the people who aren't planning to get it (per the article) said it was because of the newness, not because they thought it was a conspiracy. I haven't decided whether to get one or not. I've never had a flu shot, and only had flu once or twice in 50 years, but then again, It doesn't sound like this one will be much fun, so who knows.... Thanks for your answer.
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October 07, 2009 11:12 PM
If one is under 65, then they should get it if they want, otherwise, if they're over 65, they should take the normal seasonal flu shot, if they want. And it's all still optional. Nobody's being forced to get one if they don't want.

The only reason the government's acting all freaky about announcing urgent calls for people to get the N1H1 vaccine is because it's an exactly balanced call back in volume to the shouts of panic that the public have been doing about N1H1.

i.e. Someone says in a calm voice to the government, "There's a flu going around", so the government says, "Then here's a flu shot".

But someone rushes in in a panic and says, "THERE'S A FLU GOIN' AROUND!", so the government says, "THEN GET A G-D D-MN FLU SHOT! HERE!"

Just realx. If you don't want a flu shot, then don't get one. If you do want a flu shot, then if you're under 65, get the one for N1H1, and if you're over 65, then get the normal seasonal flu shot, because if you're over 65, odds are you're already immune to the N1H1 strain.
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October 08, 2009 12:44 AM
Boy oh boy are people scared of the flu shot! Yabba. I have rarely seen so much panic and fear in humans since the invention of fire. I encourage everyone to research and read reputable sources and their information about vaccines. Any website that touts "never trust the government" is purposely trying to mislead and scare you: The government isn't making this vaccine, and they aren't benefiting from it. Be anti-government if you want, but being anti-vaccine is a different state of mind altogether.

Yes, I will be getting vaccinated if they are available. Vaccinations are important precautions with minimal risks compared to severe strains of flu. The shots are made with killed viruses in the same way that seasonal flu shots are prepared. I get those shots every year. So far, no government mind control. I think.

No, I do not believe that the government should require people to get the vaccination. If people are too afraid of their own shadows to get the vaccine, then that is their choice. I hope they don't get sick (or worse), but they're willing to roll the dice.

I'm taking care of myself and embracing the best medical science has to offer. My family makes its living off of science, so I have a general trust of science. Plus I educate myself. And I don't pay attention to chain letter emails.
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October 08, 2009 02:05 AM
I must have missed the government mind control folks and chain e-mails. Most people are hesitant because it's new and was put on a fast track. That seems like a perfectly logical concern to me.
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