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November 23, 2009 03:15 PM
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There are a lot of factors to be taken into consideration when beginning any relationship. When a potential partner has children, you must realize that it is a package deal!
A single parent has responsibilities that take priority over dating - their children. This means, depending upon the age, everything from general health and welfare to activities to discipline to not leaving the children in the care of others too often just to go out. It's difficult for a single parent to be able to be spontaneous. It's difficult for a single parent to go away for a weekend without the kids.
The single parent is also responsible for guiding their children in their moral growth. This could mean no "romantic overnights" when the kids are home (if there is a visitation or shared parenting arrangement).
I divorced when my oldest was almost 8 years old. There were a lot of years of "no, you can't stay the night" and "no, I have the kids that weekend" and "no, you aren't my children's father and I don't authorize you to discipline them".
As my kids grew older, I guess I became a little selfish. I refused to date men who had young children. I had worked through those years putting my children first and was not willing to step backward.
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A single parent has responsibilities that take priority over dating - their children. This means, depending upon the age, everything from general health and welfare to activities to discipline to not leaving the children in the care of others too often just to go out. It's difficult for a single parent to be able to be spontaneous. It's difficult for a single parent to go away for a weekend without the kids.
The single parent is also responsible for guiding their children in their moral growth. This could mean no "romantic overnights" when the kids are home (if there is a visitation or shared parenting arrangement).
I divorced when my oldest was almost 8 years old. There were a lot of years of "no, you can't stay the night" and "no, I have the kids that weekend" and "no, you aren't my children's father and I don't authorize you to discipline them".
As my kids grew older, I guess I became a little selfish. I refused to date men who had young children. I had worked through those years putting my children first and was not willing to step backward.
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November 22, 2009 06:06 PM
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of course. Just because a woman has children doesnt mean she's off limits. Admittedly there will be men out there, who are not interested in having children so would steer clear. But personally i see nothing at all wrong with a woman with children. Yummy Mummy's come to mind.
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November 22, 2009 08:14 PM
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Personally, yes I would. It is not the children that are a concern of mine, it would be the children's momma(s).
This situation would call for a lot of communication before dating would commence. :-)
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This situation would call for a lot of communication before dating would commence. :-)
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November 22, 2009 10:41 PM
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Yes. Mainly because I don't really care who is the father. I love children no matter what...It's the only weak spot I have...I just love them. No matter what...I always ask myself...If I would marry a 2 kids mom, and have the third child, if I will make a difference...I really think this is your question, and my answer is No! I'm equal to everybody, no matter what. I love the family, not only one member.
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November 23, 2009 02:35 AM
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I suppose it is easy for me to say, yes, I would date a man with kids. The reality of the situation would probably bring about difficulties and complications that could only emerge within the dynamics of the relationship as it develops and that one does not even consider when first entering into such a relationship.
Would any potential conflicts created by dating a man with kids preclude me from dating him? no; but, it would definitely make me analyze our potential and strengths as a couple before doing so, because I am certain that a relationship where there are kids from another relationship will bring about stresses that would not exist otherwise.
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Would any potential conflicts created by dating a man with kids preclude me from dating him? no; but, it would definitely make me analyze our potential and strengths as a couple before doing so, because I am certain that a relationship where there are kids from another relationship will bring about stresses that would not exist otherwise.
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November 23, 2009 07:16 PM
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Well, yeah, technically it's not a problem, however, I've been around that block a couple of times, and there's one little "gotcha" that tends to get you the first time you see it happen.
With guys, the love and concern he feels for his wife and kids is about equal, but it seems to be in the natural order of things that, for women, their first priority is and always will be their kids.
If those kids are also yours, then you probably don't notice it that much, because of your own paternal affection to the kids, although you might see it rear it's hellish head if she thinks you're being too hard on one of them, whereupon you find yourself getting shredded by the she-cat after the kids are asleep, whereupon you have to work out some kind of understanding that can quite likely involve having to play the paternal-rights card.
When they're not your kids, you are second-fiddle unless you can demonstrate a commitment on the level of something like formally adopting them, so don't think that you're going to be able to express any kind of authority like you'd be able to if they were your own kids.
It leads to a situation where she's the nucleus of the whole picture, and you're just there to help her raise the kids - with all the responsibility, but not quite all the authority - and sometimes that can be frustrating.
It's not always bad. Sometimes you being there is exactly what the family needed, but it can feel like being a hired caregiver where instead of being paid a wage to help with the kids, now you're chipping into the family budget, and your net compensation is getting to sleep with the mother.
When I dated a woman with kids, it wasn't bad, in that me and the kids ended up becoming real pals, such that we still stay in touch long after they left home, but, whether or not they and the mother are even consciously aware of it, *I* can see that if there was ever a serious crisis where the mother and/or the kids had to choose between each other or me, they'd choose each other, and so... I was philosophical about it, I maintained a personal secret emergency bailout contingency plan, and kept my fingers crossed that there would never be a crisis on that scale...
That might sound a tad too objectively analytical, but in one case, a perfect-storm of a crisis did happen (combination of major cutbacks in employment for both the public and private sectors, affecting her job and mine) and what we would do next boiled down to the question of whether or not to let the kids continue in the schools and with the friends they were accustomed to.
To me, it seemed like no big deal to pack up and move the whole family to a different part of the country, but to her it was important for the kids to stay with the schools and friends they had, and the only way to do that was to move into the basement of her parent's place, who lived in the same city, but who hated me and would never have allowed me to stay there for religious reasons.
So... to her, it was a simple solution... I would leave... which I would have done anyway because the kind of work I did was still available in other parts of the country, which means that to me, I was moving to get some work, which sometimes happens with married couples where the kids are both of yours, but to her, I was moving so she could ensure her kids the kind of continuity with friends and schools that she thought they should have, and she didn't care very much if it meant I continued to be part of the family or not, so I used my emergency exit strategy, moved to another part of the country, and started a new life.
So... the point is... there's no problem dating or getting serious with a woman who has kids, but just understand that unless you're willing to prove a level dedication to those kids on the level of formal adoption where you can actually express some authority equal to the expected responsibility, you're going to be playing second fiddle to those kids in her eyes.
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With guys, the love and concern he feels for his wife and kids is about equal, but it seems to be in the natural order of things that, for women, their first priority is and always will be their kids.
If those kids are also yours, then you probably don't notice it that much, because of your own paternal affection to the kids, although you might see it rear it's hellish head if she thinks you're being too hard on one of them, whereupon you find yourself getting shredded by the she-cat after the kids are asleep, whereupon you have to work out some kind of understanding that can quite likely involve having to play the paternal-rights card.
When they're not your kids, you are second-fiddle unless you can demonstrate a commitment on the level of something like formally adopting them, so don't think that you're going to be able to express any kind of authority like you'd be able to if they were your own kids.
It leads to a situation where she's the nucleus of the whole picture, and you're just there to help her raise the kids - with all the responsibility, but not quite all the authority - and sometimes that can be frustrating.
It's not always bad. Sometimes you being there is exactly what the family needed, but it can feel like being a hired caregiver where instead of being paid a wage to help with the kids, now you're chipping into the family budget, and your net compensation is getting to sleep with the mother.
When I dated a woman with kids, it wasn't bad, in that me and the kids ended up becoming real pals, such that we still stay in touch long after they left home, but, whether or not they and the mother are even consciously aware of it, *I* can see that if there was ever a serious crisis where the mother and/or the kids had to choose between each other or me, they'd choose each other, and so... I was philosophical about it, I maintained a personal secret emergency bailout contingency plan, and kept my fingers crossed that there would never be a crisis on that scale...
That might sound a tad too objectively analytical, but in one case, a perfect-storm of a crisis did happen (combination of major cutbacks in employment for both the public and private sectors, affecting her job and mine) and what we would do next boiled down to the question of whether or not to let the kids continue in the schools and with the friends they were accustomed to.
To me, it seemed like no big deal to pack up and move the whole family to a different part of the country, but to her it was important for the kids to stay with the schools and friends they had, and the only way to do that was to move into the basement of her parent's place, who lived in the same city, but who hated me and would never have allowed me to stay there for religious reasons.
So... to her, it was a simple solution... I would leave... which I would have done anyway because the kind of work I did was still available in other parts of the country, which means that to me, I was moving to get some work, which sometimes happens with married couples where the kids are both of yours, but to her, I was moving so she could ensure her kids the kind of continuity with friends and schools that she thought they should have, and she didn't care very much if it meant I continued to be part of the family or not, so I used my emergency exit strategy, moved to another part of the country, and started a new life.
So... the point is... there's no problem dating or getting serious with a woman who has kids, but just understand that unless you're willing to prove a level dedication to those kids on the level of formal adoption where you can actually express some authority equal to the expected responsibility, you're going to be playing second fiddle to those kids in her eyes.
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November 24, 2009 04:10 PM
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Well, twenty-one years ago I married a man who had three kids (and I already had one). Shortly after we got married we took custody of them from their negligent mother. It's been tough at times and I've heard plenty of "you're not my mother!" But now they are adults with kids of their own and have blessed us with many wonderful grandchildren.
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November 25, 2009 01:03 PM
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Since I am a woman and not into women, I am going to answer your question a bit differently. I would date a man who has children the same age as my own, because he would understand me and my lifestyle a bit better then a man with no kids.
I am a woman with 3 kids, and I would certainly want someone to date me for me, however since my kids are important in my life any man I choose to date needs to like them. I am a package deal and being a mom came way before I was a single mom.
I tend to seek out single fathers who also have children at home so that they understand where I am coming from. Single people have no clue about kids on a daily basis. At this point in my life, I would only date man with teenagers or young adult children because we would have common ground.
I know there is a man out there with values, morals, and desires like mine but I have not found him yet. I sure the heck does not mark me off limits simply because I am a mom and grand mom.
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I am a woman with 3 kids, and I would certainly want someone to date me for me, however since my kids are important in my life any man I choose to date needs to like them. I am a package deal and being a mom came way before I was a single mom.
I tend to seek out single fathers who also have children at home so that they understand where I am coming from. Single people have no clue about kids on a daily basis. At this point in my life, I would only date man with teenagers or young adult children because we would have common ground.
I know there is a man out there with values, morals, and desires like mine but I have not found him yet. I sure the heck does not mark me off limits simply because I am a mom and grand mom.
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