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Shouting is the new spanking: Are we heading in the right direction?

We've been told not to spank our kids. Now we're being told not to yell at them. Is the time coming when we will be told not to say 'no"? Is this progress or not?

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Marked as Best! October 27, 2009 04:59 PM
I don't think that the problem is so much the method we use as in yelling or spanking. Either one can be dangerous and not productive. The problem lies in the actual parenting. Part of parenting is having consequneces for actions. That means actually following through on things. for instance, if your child refuses to do their chores, you can yell all day long or spank them, but the chores still might not get done and they may not even realize that work leads to privlidges. Why, because the spanking ends, the yelling ends and they still have their privlidges. Why not take away the cell phone, car keys, keyboard and whatever else kind of gadgets they have? When the chores are done, they get them back. Simple.

I think the bottom lin eis topping spanking is that people were getting carried away with it and children were gettign hurt, only to go on and hurt someone else. Pesonally, I was spanked as a child. It was effective, but it also bred a certain fear in me. I don't agree with teaching our children through fear. How about teaching them right and wrong based on concequences and positive reinforcement? Seriously, when they grow up, no one is going to spank them for doing wrong, but they could lose things that mean something to them. As for yelling, that's easy enough to tune out at any given time, and just as easy to carry on into use with our own children. It's also completely ineffective and only teaches our children that adults act like children throwing a tantrum when they are angry.

I also don't believe the government needs to dictate how to raise our children. If they were truly concerned about it, then maybe they wouldn't promote worship of the almighty dollar so much and parents could actually take the time to raise their own children.
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October 27, 2009 05:12 PM
several good points! Thanks for your answer.
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October 27, 2009 05:20 PM
NO,
I have 3 kids. I will admit proudly that I spank my kids when they deserve it.I do not abuse them.They get a good swat to the backside when they back talk or misbahave badly.

I believe all kids react differently to different forms of punishment.Some do well on time out,others need a swat to the bottom.Others just do well with a firm word.It is NOBODIES business how I take care of my childrens misbehaviour.
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October 27, 2009 10:37 PM
I believe that yelling at a child can cause more psychological damage than spanking. Corporal punishment when done appropriately creates a clearer link between the act committed and the punishment. Shouting sets a precedence for a child to see that argumentative behavior is part of normal discourse.

In the future, as a teen or adult, the child will be more likely to engage in loud, curt discussions, unwilling, or unable to hold a balanced argument.

Of course, in the end, parenting is a matter for the individual, as long as the child is not being abused, my opinion, your opinion, society's opinion should remain just that, opinions. The one last thing one wants is governmental intrusion in the upbringing of children under the guise of societal good.
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October 28, 2009 12:40 PM
I am raising 2 teens and a 9 year old. I do believe in corporal punishment but have not had to use it for quite some time. As a matter of fact, when I get serious with my kids now (and for some time now) I will grab my wooden spoon from the drawer and by the time I look up, the kids have scattered very quickly to their rooms.

I have a few theories on raising my kids and these work for me very well.
-Shouting is a useless tactic. As my mother always told me, "if you are angry and shouting, then you have lost control of the situation. So if they are angry at you then you have maintained control". I am so over always being angry with kids who don't even have all their brain cells yet. When I really want my kids especially the teens) to listen to me, I lower my voice. I don't know why but it works everytime.
-Lying-I do not tolerate lying from my children. To eliminate more than half of the opportunities for them to lie was going to be the secret. I decided to handle it this way. Situation-I was putting some things away in my son's room. While doing so, I happened across somes things that he had stolen from members of the household (my son has that problem). I knew that if I had asked him about it, he would lie to me like he has many times before. Instead, when he got up the next morning, I told him that I found 3 hiding places in his room, holding things that belonged to other people. I neglected to tell him what I found and where I found it. So him lying at this point was useless because I confronted him with the truth. I never ask them a question that would result in them lying to me. I always just state the facts, with out raising my voice.
-Grounding-At my house, when the kids get grounded, not only are they restricted in the usual way, but they are given chores that I don't want to do. These are the project chores (and usually very d
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October 28, 2009 04:11 PM
Spanking is abuse if done improperly. Mind you, quite nearly any form of physical punishment is abuse.
The ONLY time it is ever appropriate to hit your child is if they are quite literally in serious danger. If your two year old is about to stick a fork in the plug-in, Whap! ON THE HAND. It's better than the alternative.

Here are a few things to think about when talking about spanking, ask yourself this:

Are you annoyed, angry or upset when you spank your child?

Do you wait for a couple hours after your child misbehaved before spanking?

Does spanking give you a sense of relief? or a release of stress from the situation?

Does your child fully understand why you are spanking?

Are you promoting the behavior you are punishing?

To hit on the last question, "Are you promoting the behavior that you are punishing?" If you are hitting your child, is it not reasonable to think they will learn to hit as well. I mean you say, "Mama" or "Dada" a billion times wanting them to mock your, right? Kids do that. They will duplicate what we do. That's how they learn.
Are you spanking for bad language? What do you say around your kids? What do they hear? I mean they hear it somewhere, right? If you think it is ok to repeat bad language around your children and then spank them, you are an idiot. The next time your child says a word you wish they would not, pop yourself in the mouth. You caused the problem, not them. If you want them to stop saying things or doing thing that they are doing...stop it yourself. Lead by example. (sorry, this is my biggest issue with parenting).

Yelling at your child is no better than spanking if you are being abusive. However, if your little one is about to stick his head in the toilet or spill a bowl of soup on your sofa, getting their attention is NOT abuse. This is the exception -- if it is to get a child's attention and not release anger, you're fine. But if you are doing it because you're mad, seek anger management for that. Your kid is not a well to hold emotional abuse just because you can't control yourself.

Children are not property that you manage. They are living, breathing people. Realize that and practice treating them accordingly and you will be a much better parent.

As a parent, your job is to raise the most moral, loving, compassionate, successful, intelligent and productive adult. You start that job on day one and you ask yourself with every move you make how you are going to compose the symphony of your child's life with the parenting styles and choices you're making.

By the way, it's also not your job to be your child's friend. You're the boss...not your kid. Parents who try to be the hip and cool parent, inviting their friends over and allowing whatever...get a grip. You should have lived out your glory days already. You are a PARENT - opposite of friend sometimes. And that's ok.

Love your kids. Do not over discipline. Make sure the punishment fits the crime. Have rules and abide by them. Be consistent when those rules are broken. Guess what, you're in control...no matter what those little people in your home would like for you to believe.
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