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You have a friend who treats his animals poorly--what do you do?
Let's say you have a friend who is not abusive to his animals, and he's not neglectful, but he's very harsh with them, using physical punishment and ridicule when he disciplines them, frequently yells at them and is ugly to them. They are good, loyal animals, but they seem to me to cower until they figure out what sort of mood he's in.
When he punishes them, he brags to you about how he does it, and you find it horribly cruel. It's not enough to qualify as abuse so you can't report him to law enforcement.
What do you do?
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When he punishes them, he brags to you about how he does it, and you find it horribly cruel. It's not enough to qualify as abuse so you can't report him to law enforcement.
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October 22, 2009 09:48 AM
My own experience with a very strong-willed, intelligent Dalmatian.
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I would probably talk to him, and explain that there are other, better ways to get his dog to listen to him. When training my own dog, I've followed to very distinct courses. One was extremely friendly, learning by praise alone, and this worked to some extent.
Then I went to a way more firm course, where the dog was treated pretty tough when not listening. I decided that my own dog needed an in-between method, with praise for listening, but firm correction when he showed undesirable attitude. This is very much alike to how a dog would train her own puppies, with loving care, but with a growl to put the youngsters in place when needed.
To explain this to a friend, I would show how I handle my own dog, and how the dog's mind works. I'll demonstrate that a dog needs guidance, and a boss who sets proper rules, but that that boss needs to 'earn' that respect. Not by beating, but by treating the dog fairly. I'll explain that to the dog, he is the father-figure, and that a beating father is not a good father at all.
I would keep repeating this message each time I see him treat his dog badly. I'll offer him books and 'how to' information, and all the help he requires.
Hopefully, this would help him change his behavior.
Dogs will simply listen way better, and might amaze you with what they are willing to do for you, when treated nicely.
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Then I went to a way more firm course, where the dog was treated pretty tough when not listening. I decided that my own dog needed an in-between method, with praise for listening, but firm correction when he showed undesirable attitude. This is very much alike to how a dog would train her own puppies, with loving care, but with a growl to put the youngsters in place when needed.
To explain this to a friend, I would show how I handle my own dog, and how the dog's mind works. I'll demonstrate that a dog needs guidance, and a boss who sets proper rules, but that that boss needs to 'earn' that respect. Not by beating, but by treating the dog fairly. I'll explain that to the dog, he is the father-figure, and that a beating father is not a good father at all.
I would keep repeating this message each time I see him treat his dog badly. I'll offer him books and 'how to' information, and all the help he requires.
Hopefully, this would help him change his behavior.
Dogs will simply listen way better, and might amaze you with what they are willing to do for you, when treated nicely.
My own experience with a very strong-willed, intelligent Dalmatian.
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• That picture is priceless... think we can teach my dog to do that?
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October 22, 2009 10:58 AM
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If this dog owner in question made a point to physically and emotionally abuse his dog in my presence, I'd wonder if he just didn't have a dog so he had something to control. I would tell him that the way he treated his animals was nothing to brag about, and help him learn some more appropriate methods. My concern would be that a man who treats his animals harshly will also treat his wife and children the same way. I don't think I could be friends with that type of person, anyway, because I would have no respect for him.
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October 22, 2009 04:03 PM
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Depends on the friends. Well, it is the same like parents who do that to their child, and sometimes they do it in front of me, the teacher.
If you can, you can try to talk to them, but I doubt people with that kind of personality listens.
Sometimes there are very little you can do, especially if they are the type that won't listen and don't like to be criticized. If they don't abuse them too much or neglect them, you cannot ask the pets to be taken away from them. If you feel very compassionate to the pets, maybe you can offer to adopt them. (too bad we can't do that with children).
As much as they seem to suffer under his control, it is better than living in animal shelters or on the street. I know it seems harsh, but that's the way life is.
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If you can, you can try to talk to them, but I doubt people with that kind of personality listens.
Sometimes there are very little you can do, especially if they are the type that won't listen and don't like to be criticized. If they don't abuse them too much or neglect them, you cannot ask the pets to be taken away from them. If you feel very compassionate to the pets, maybe you can offer to adopt them. (too bad we can't do that with children).
As much as they seem to suffer under his control, it is better than living in animal shelters or on the street. I know it seems harsh, but that's the way life is.
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October 22, 2009 07:15 PM
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One who treats his pets with cruelty, will do the same with his family and friends! Just stay away from him!!! Are you referring to Michael Vick?
Follow PETA's advice, about "What To Do If You Spot Animal Abuse":
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October 22, 2009 07:42 PM
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If I were you, I would call animal control just to ask, generally, what they consider abuse. Animals that are constantly under stress because they are constantly afraid are, in my own opinion, being abused. If he won't listen to reason, then maybe a third party needs to explain to him that his behavior is unacceptable, and he needs to be told the brutal reality. You could also be nice about it and offer to pay for an animal training class, since he's so frickin' proud of his techniques, so the trainer there can step in and explain to him why his methods aren't a good idea. He'll probably stomp away after the first class, but maybe it will open his eyes a little.
Personally, I would just tell this guy off. He sounds like an arrogant jerk. Maybe if someone actually confronts him to the point of saying "I won't watch you do this, it's so sick" he'll understand. I would also report him anyway. At least you'll know you did what you could. If you don't think he'll just run out and get more animals, I would also seriously consider just taking them away. They can't protect themselves.
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Personally, I would just tell this guy off. He sounds like an arrogant jerk. Maybe if someone actually confronts him to the point of saying "I won't watch you do this, it's so sick" he'll understand. I would also report him anyway. At least you'll know you did what you could. If you don't think he'll just run out and get more animals, I would also seriously consider just taking them away. They can't protect themselves.
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October 23, 2009 12:33 AM
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I would tell him he is in the wrong and may want to seek some help. If a person does that to animals he is capable of doing that to people, probably women. He likes to feel power over what he deems to be "Lesser beings". Then I would stop being their friend.
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October 23, 2009 03:04 AM
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When it comes to abuse animal or human I am not the one to be able to sit by and watch or hear about it. I would report it immediately. I understand it's a friend, but that is wrong. You could try and say something, but if it doens't stop immediately I would report it. Even if it's not report worthy the police will still come and check it out, talk to him who knows what they will witness or find, it never hurts to stand up for what is right. you never know for sure what the outcome could be.
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October 24, 2009 12:30 AM
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If it is not enough to be considered abuse then there is nothing that can be done about it from that point. You cannot control other people. You can mention your discomfort with how he treats his animals and ask that at least when you are around that he be a little kinder to them.
Or you could start berating him and pushing him around every time he does something to your disliking and see how he likes it.
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Or you could start berating him and pushing him around every time he does something to your disliking and see how he likes it.
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